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Tried a bean bag under the feet, fail. Thinking of a foam pad (something w/ resistance) though that’s counterproductive for the incontinence. I can put the chucks on that though? Suggestions?
Nope, can't do anything around the feet or in front of the chair due to falls. I'd get a large roll or sheet of rug grip and cut to fit the chair seat, this will prevent him from slipping. Then top with whatever you're currently using to contain the spills, so long as the backing is non-slip (Chux would be too slippery for this).
If the rug backing material doesn't work for some reason (it works for my Mom's chair), you could go extreme and rig some heavy cloth clips to short straps that could be glued to the back corners of the chair; use Gorilla Glue or other heavy duty hold to secure to the chair corners. Then the incontinence covering could be attached with these. I do think the rug backing is best; it's washable and reusable.
Get a fabric chair and put a waterproof pet cover on it. Much fresher than leather and can just be washed with lovely smelling detergent. Also on bad days I’ve used a puppy pee pad in addition that can just be easily replaced, they come in different colours these days. The puppy pads for larger dogs are pretty much the same as the human disposable ones but fraction of the price.
I bought a "pet cover" for our recliner and sofa. Most of the time I use it as is and wash it as needed. Whenever my husband has days of higher level of incontinence I add a "fusion" pad on top of the "pet cover" for added protection.
Here is an example of a "pet cover"... you can often find them at Walmart, Kohl's, etc.
Leather is dangerous for the elderly. We bought my mom a fabric lift recliner and put a waterproof chuck under a towel that she sits on. No issues with leakage :)
You may prefer leather, thinking it’s an easier clean-up, but eventually it will hold onto odor, just like fabric. I kept carpet for my loved one in lieu of floors for any fall mishaps, cleaned constantly. With incontinence going on you do have to cover their favorite spot & their bed. You may want to use a plastic bed liner first to protect the chair, then a blanket or sheet for comfort & to avoid slipping, but you will have to replace the blanket or sheet if soiled with a back-up, possibly the plastic as well. Have to be honest, you will need a lot of blankets, covers, sheets. There will be laundry 24/7 & any piece of furniture will eventually be ruined with any incontinence issues. In a late stage of dementia a loved one can forget to rise to stand up, so they may sit a lot & slide themselves to the floor. Forget restraining, never a solution. Blessings 🙏
There's nothing you can do with leather to prevent him sliding off. Buy a cheap upholstered recliner for him and get a waterproof-backed and washable chair cover for it. This will be your best bet. If the leather recliner is nice, put it in storage or use it yourself. You can also purchase a faux-suede recliners at Costco for $399.00 they are waterproof and pretty comfortable too. You can wash them with spray cleaner and paper towels. I had a client who had one. It was great.
Is that a real question: "Why don't you want to restrain him?" You do understand that restraints are a last resort in any care setting for good reason, right? Restraints remove a person's freedom of movement and rights to self-determination. And you suggest a Geri chair? In my lifetime of healthcare, a Geri chair is last resort, for those who have zero remaining awareness of surroundings and no mobility. They are used for what we call 'GOMERS.' You put an elderly person in one of those chairs and the message is 'Your life is over.'
They have reusable and washable chuck pads, or disposable ones. Alot of nursing/assisted living facilities use these, as they help residents with slipping but also keep residents from going in the chair. Depending on the patients we put 1 or 2 down. Keep in mind you still have to keep an eye on them and make sure they stay dry but these are so helpful
I put a twin waterproof mattress pad on my mother's chair and a throw blanket tucked in on top of that. If there was an accident, I just had to wash the throw.
I bought one of those cloth chair covers for a recliner in our house, not because of anyone sliding out but because the fabric had a creepy feeling to it. The seat cover was soft. Since this chair is used for snacking, the cover protects the chair.
Leave him on the floor till he asks for help. If he can not help himself with your help ...you will hurt yourself. If he does not respond with self help you are in trouble with your own abilities. If he does not respond to helping himself and reducing your body needs... Is his mind not "responsive"?He needs to be placed.
?? How is this a helpful comment?? All the OP has to do is buy a non slip (washable) waterproof chair pad made just for leather recliners to prevent slipping off of them in the first place, and her problems are solved. "Leaving him on the floor" is about as helpful a comment as using super glue to keep him adhered to the recliner is.
I bought a purple seat cushion for my husband's office chair. It has a cover and is some kind of rubbery gel material. Both washable.
I was sitting on it the other day and tried to scoot forward to pick something off the floor, nope, no scooting on that baby.
I think it would be very helpful and the shape makes me think it would be beneficial in stopping sores for someone sitting to long.
I got ours for 40 bucks, so reasonably priced and he has been using it since 2017 and it's still in great shape. Just checked on the internet, prices have gone up, still worth it in my opinion.
Maybe two in this situation would make it easier for you when cleaning.
I am ordering two for my truck, it was so comfy.
Please come back and share how you fixed this problem.
You can purchase disposable pads to put on the seat of his chairs and also under him in bed, for incontinence. Medicare covers some durable medical equipment. When my mother was in memory care and started to fall out of her wheel chair, they got her a geri chair. It's a chair that can recline, and it can be raised at the knees, and is more supportive than a regular recliner. But he'll need assistance getting in and out of it. Someone else will have to adjust it.
There are gel type pads, not really a pad but thinner, that prevents people from slipping out or off of a chair. Remember years ago there were ads for a product that you would put on your car dash and it would prevent your phone from sliding off? Same stuff. Or the "Wall Walker" toys your kids had? Same stuff. Pretty much the same stuff that is on the reusable lint rollers as well. Easily rinsed off. I guess the rubbery type shelf liner would work also.
There is a product named Dycem, it comes in non-slip sheets or on a roll. It’s great! We used to use it when I worked in special education to keep kids from slipping off of their chairs. It’s also very handy to put under plates or other objects to make eating a bit easier. You can buy it on Amazon or order from Walmart. It’s washable.
There are fabric covers for chairs that would make it less slippery. Get a couple so you can launder them as needed. Also consider getting some firm foam wedges to slide under the front edge while he sits.
I used a 1"foam pad, then a twin waterproof mattress pad and sheet to make a lift chair more comfortable. The twin pad fit tight against the top of the chair and I gathered the extra at the bottom on the underneath side and secured it with a zip tie.
Then I used the washable waterproof chair pads and I just changed them when they got wet. Sometimes the sheet and mattress pad needed changing too but the foam pad never got wet.
There is a product - non-slip silicone material sold by “Mars”, Available on Amazon. It comes in rolls, cut to your desired size. Good under dinner plates to keep them in one place. Also good under bottoms to keep from sliding off a chair. An OT at work once gave me a piece to keep me from sliding off the leather chairs. Works! LOL!
Not going to work if their is incontinence going on! Any accidents will soil the blanket, sheet, ruin the chair quickly! Sorry to say furniture has to be protected with wipeable covers, tossing them when necessary & replaced! Not easy! Blessings 🙏
Even a leather chair will absorb the odor of urine over time. It's just a fact of life. Mom went through 2 leather recliners and 1 fabric one. Spending up to 10 hours in one chair is going to wear it out, no matter how little they move in it.
Mom just added layer after layer of blankets, chux, towels and still she could flood a chair to the point it had to be removed and power-washed. The leather ones 'wore off' the leather--I am saying 'leather' but I'm thinking 'pleather' a cheap alternative to leather used in the sides and backs of leather furniture to make the real leather last (the seat and back and arms).
We never really solved the problem of her 'slumping' to the floor when she got kind of boneless at the end. No strength and no ability to pull herself up in the chair.
I like My2cents ideas. YB tends to 'MacGyver' a lot of things. The recliner was beyond him.
Ha I had a similar problem. My wife is incontinent. I have a fabric sofa so I put a garbage bag over the cushion to protect it. Now I have a slippery surface so I wrapped the cushion with a blanket and tucked it back in. If it gets wet I just wash the blanket.
Pretty much anything with fabric will slide on leather just like he does. One suggestion below is a bath mat. The rubber backing might stick to the chair without sliding and you should be able to test that theory without much expense. Plus it would be washable. The only problem I can foresee with anything you put on the chair seat --- is it will move into the crack of the chair with each time he gets in and out.
Since I tend to be a MacGyver for problems, I think I'd try a long bath type runner (with the rubber backing). Have someone put some grommets in each end (prob 3 of them). Slide one end into the seat crack going toward back of chair. Bungee cord into the grommets and around base of the chair in back. YOu might have to pull it taught again during the day, but it will stay connected in the back without sliding toward front when he gets out of chair. If necessary, bungee the same way to front of chair, too (making sure it will still recline)
Gravity can work FOR your dad as well as against him! Try raising up the front two feet of the chair on something about two inches high. You could even screw a short block of 2"x2" wood onto the bottom of the chair feet.) That might be just enough to make him slide back into the chair instead of sliding forward. If he complains about leaning back so far, then put a thin pillow on the back of the chair.
How about a washable chair pillow which comes in various shapes, sizes, colors and designs. This is what I purchased for my mother who also experienced the same issue and she loves it. FYI - The button style pillows are generally uncomfortable.
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Nope, can't do anything around the feet or in front of the chair due to falls. I'd get a large roll or sheet of rug grip and cut to fit the chair seat, this will prevent him from slipping. Then top with whatever you're currently using to contain the spills, so long as the backing is non-slip (Chux would be too slippery for this).
If the rug backing material doesn't work for some reason (it works for my Mom's chair), you could go extreme and rig some heavy cloth clips to short straps that could be glued to the back corners of the chair; use Gorilla Glue or other heavy duty hold to secure to the chair corners. Then the incontinence covering could be attached with these. I do think the rug backing is best; it's washable and reusable.
Best of luck!
There are rubbery shelf liners that could be used.
Here is an example of a "pet cover"... you can often find them at Walmart, Kohl's, etc.
https://www.amazon.com/pet-covers-recliners/s?k=pet+covers+for+recliners
Here is an example of a "fusion" pad. (Best incontinence pad ever!! Watch the video.)
https://www.mipinc.com/products/categories/underpads/patient-care-underpads/fusion%C2%AE-underpads.html?classid=75&searchString=pad
Buy a cheap upholstered recliner for him and get a waterproof-backed and washable chair cover for it.
This will be your best bet. If the leather recliner is nice, put it in storage or use it yourself.
You can also purchase a faux-suede recliners at Costco for $399.00
they are waterproof and pretty comfortable too. You can wash them with spray cleaner and paper towels. I had a client who had one. It was great.
Is that a real question: "Why don't you want to restrain him?" You do understand that restraints are a last resort in any care setting for good reason, right? Restraints remove a person's freedom of movement and rights to self-determination. And you suggest a Geri chair? In my lifetime of healthcare, a Geri chair is last resort, for those who have zero remaining awareness of surroundings and no mobility. They are used for what we call 'GOMERS.' You put an elderly person in one of those chairs and the message is 'Your life is over.'
I was sitting on it the other day and tried to scoot forward to pick something off the floor, nope, no scooting on that baby.
I think it would be very helpful and the shape makes me think it would be beneficial in stopping sores for someone sitting to long.
I got ours for 40 bucks, so reasonably priced and he has been using it since 2017 and it's still in great shape. Just checked on the internet, prices have gone up, still worth it in my opinion.
Maybe two in this situation would make it easier for you when cleaning.
I am ordering two for my truck, it was so comfy.
Please come back and share how you fixed this problem.
Remember years ago there were ads for a product that you would put on your car dash and it would prevent your phone from sliding off? Same stuff.
Or the "Wall Walker" toys your kids had? Same stuff.
Pretty much the same stuff that is on the reusable lint rollers as well.
Easily rinsed off.
I guess the rubbery type shelf liner would work also.
Then I used the washable waterproof chair pads and I just changed them when they got wet. Sometimes the sheet and mattress pad needed changing too but the foam pad never got wet.
Mom just added layer after layer of blankets, chux, towels and still she could flood a chair to the point it had to be removed and power-washed. The leather ones 'wore off' the leather--I am saying 'leather' but I'm thinking 'pleather' a cheap alternative to leather used in the sides and backs of leather furniture to make the real leather last (the seat and back and arms).
We never really solved the problem of her 'slumping' to the floor when she got kind of boneless at the end. No strength and no ability to pull herself up in the chair.
I like My2cents ideas. YB tends to 'MacGyver' a lot of things. The recliner was beyond him.
Since I tend to be a MacGyver for problems, I think I'd try a long bath type runner (with the rubber backing). Have someone put some grommets in each end (prob 3 of them). Slide one end into the seat crack going toward back of chair. Bungee cord into the grommets and around base of the chair in back. YOu might have to pull it taught again during the day, but it will stay connected in the back without sliding toward front when he gets out of chair. If necessary, bungee the same way to front of chair, too (making sure it will still recline)
https://www.amazon.com/Ameritex-Waterproof-Furniture-Protector-Scratches-Free/dp/B07PSCK5WQ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2V0TFK4QXZUEZ&keywords=non+slip+seat+pad+for+leather+recliner&qid=1663114032&sprefix=non+slip+seat+pad%2Caps%2C160&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1
Or, for a whole page of different ones, look here:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=non+slip+seat+pad+for+leather+recliner&crid=2V0TFK4QXZUEZ&sprefix=non+slip+seat+pad%2Caps%2C160&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_3_17
Good luck!