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Thank you for all who gave me some helpful hints. My mother lives in an Assisted Living facility. I have 3 siblings who are anti-vaxxers that scared her the night prior to the vaccination without my knowledge (I am her Power of Attorney for all medical situations). On Saturday when her facility had the vaccinations my mother was the only resident that did not have it. Now she is in tears because she knows it was an unwise decision on her part to listen to their scare tactics. Her nurse told her she could have the first shot at the end of the month when the other residents get their 2nd shot. How sad for me to have siblings who would do this to my mother. Prayers needed as I go forward with her care.
So sad that anti-vaxxers out there who put their will on an older woman who lives in a facility. No thought, before scaring her, about how quickly that virus can make the rounds in a facility or group setting. And many (not all, but many) non-vaxxers are also non-maskers because they believe in conspiracy theories.
Wonder how they would feel if mom ended up getting a bad case of it when the severity may have been mitigated by a simple vaccine? I mean, the vaccine at least promotes antibodies to fight it if exposed. And depending on their ages, they were probably spared polio and smallpox (and a host of other diseases) because their bodies were inocculated. Anyone can have a reaction to any type of shot, but it is not common. They would probably have knee surgery if the knee wore out - and it's fairly high risk for issues. . . but people do it because they weigh the risk versus not being able to walk. Sorry they put mom through the scare.
Definitely NOT a conversation they should have had with her. If anything, they could have voiced concern w/you since you apparently assist her with decisions. At least you have her on track to get it for her again.
Is your Mom of sound mind? What reasons does she give you that she doesn't wish to get the vaccine. To my own mind we cannot and likely we SHOULD not force others to get vaccinations. If your Mom has the facts, she should make her own decision, understanding it is her own life she is risking. See to it that you are vaccinated, and others in your family. God forbid your Mom be the first documented vaccine patient to die (it was just announced yesterday that there has been NO deaths from vaccination; somewhat a miracle to tell the truth. And Covid-19 in the elderly can be a death sentence. Tell your Mom you aren't ready to lose her, but that you understand she must make her own decisions. Give your Mom the facts. Let her make her own decision is she is of sound mind. We are all in charge of and responsible for our own medical decisions. Good luck.
How old is your mom? My 90 YO mom said she didn;t want it as she never went anywhere really, and wanted her shot to go to front line worker like myself. She knew she would be more likely to get it from me than anyone else,, and she was ready to go. BTW.. COVID did not kill her,, CHF did..
don't make your mother get a vaccine my friend was perfectly healthy and after the vaccine my friend died not cause of covid but cause of the vaccine ;-(
As I said below, I would never try to convince someone to get the covid-19 vaccine. I would encourage them to visit the CDC site and the FDA site and research and have all the information they can get, then discuss with their own doctor, then make their own decision. As I guaranteed, I would push men woman and children out of my way to take this vaccine, and likely did that; my first shot went in on the 28th. I can't wait to get number two. But to convince another to do ANYTHING medically is to take their given rights out of their own hands and to say my own opinion/advice has more weight in their lives than their own. We must make our own decisions. For me that has ALWAYS been to protect myself as well as I can FROM others, and to do all I can not to get and spread this disease. Others will decided differently. When I felt at my most hopeless with hearing people were refusing vaccines I just told myself "Darwinian", and moved on. Try to give the facts. Let her make her own decision. Get vaccinated as soon as you can, so if she DOES get it, you do not. About all you can do.
Thank you Ann--'scary stories' abound, but the truth is, while most people react in some way to the vaccine, far more have died of COVID than getting the vax.
Many Sr Centers will not be allowing un-vaccinated Srs back into their places. My mom is afraid she will die (not of covid) but before she can get the shot before she can return to her beloved Sr Center. She goes 1-2 days a week and I know she'd do ANYTHING to make it be OK for her to go back.
Doe she live with you or alone? Is she in a NH of some kind? She may not 'get' a choice to not take it.
My MIL who NEVER leaves her home, refused it, and SIL told her if she wouldn't take it, then she, SIL was likely to bring it into MIL's home, and since only SIL is allowed to enter MIL's house, MIL would be out of luck for 2-3 weeks.
I don't know what the consensus was----Dh was upset with her for something else altogether and he said "You'd think with me being SO high risk, that she'd take the darn shot to protect ME on the off chance I HAVE to step back in!" She literally cares about no one but herself. DH said so much work was involved in getting a 90 yo woman to even GET the vaccine, she should be grateful for all the work SIL put in to getting it for her.
I know she's scheduled to have it on Wed., but the last I heard was that she was still refusing it. Probably due to the fact she actually has to leave the house for it.
I already know what your mom's dr would say: Get the vaccine.
I spent about 1/2 hour doing searches for “Covid vaccine deaths”, “deaths caused by Covid vaccines”, etc.
I came up with two possibly vaccine related deaths in Norway, less than 10 in France, and no others.
No neonatal deaths, no permanent disabilities, no dead elders or fetuses.
The elderly have suffered the highest numbers of DEATHS per age group, but NOT deaths caused by the Covid vaccine.
The article about Israel was printed in Hebrew and I couldn’t find a translation.
I have the deepest respect for all of us who contribute here, but for each of us to make the best decisions for ourselves and our LOs, we must all rely on the best SCIENCE AT OUR DISPOSAL.
If ANYONE HAS SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT DEATHS CAUSED BY COVID VACCINE, please post.
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Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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Wonder how they would feel if mom ended up getting a bad case of it when the severity may have been mitigated by a simple vaccine? I mean, the vaccine at least promotes antibodies to fight it if exposed. And depending on their ages, they were probably spared polio and smallpox (and a host of other diseases) because their bodies were inocculated. Anyone can have a reaction to any type of shot, but it is not common. They would probably have knee surgery if the knee wore out - and it's fairly high risk for issues. . . but people do it because they weigh the risk versus not being able to walk. Sorry they put mom through the scare.
Definitely NOT a conversation they should have had with her. If anything, they could have voiced concern w/you since you apparently assist her with decisions. At least you have her on track to get it for her again.
What reasons does she give you that she doesn't wish to get the vaccine.
To my own mind we cannot and likely we SHOULD not force others to get vaccinations. If your Mom has the facts, she should make her own decision, understanding it is her own life she is risking. See to it that you are vaccinated, and others in your family. God forbid your Mom be the first documented vaccine patient to die (it was just announced yesterday that there has been NO deaths from vaccination; somewhat a miracle to tell the truth. And Covid-19 in the elderly can be a death sentence. Tell your Mom you aren't ready to lose her, but that you understand she must make her own decisions.
Give your Mom the facts. Let her make her own decision is she is of sound mind. We are all in charge of and responsible for our own medical decisions. Good luck.
I’m in the third week of a COVID infection at 76.
Some led people survive it, some die.
NOBODY BENEFITS from suffering the illness, and NOBODY knows on the way in what the outcome will be.
Anyone who has access to the vaccine should take it.
As I guaranteed, I would push men woman and children out of my way to take this vaccine, and likely did that; my first shot went in on the 28th. I can't wait to get number two. But to convince another to do ANYTHING medically is to take their given rights out of their own hands and to say my own opinion/advice has more weight in their lives than their own. We must make our own decisions. For me that has ALWAYS been to protect myself as well as I can FROM others, and to do all I can not to get and spread this disease. Others will decided differently.
When I felt at my most hopeless with hearing people were refusing vaccines I just told myself "Darwinian", and moved on. Try to give the facts. Let her make her own decision. Get vaccinated as soon as you can, so if she DOES get it, you do not. About all you can do.
Many Sr Centers will not be allowing un-vaccinated Srs back into their places. My mom is afraid she will die (not of covid) but before she can get the shot before she can return to her beloved Sr Center. She goes 1-2 days a week and I know she'd do ANYTHING to make it be OK for her to go back.
Is she hesitant to get it? What are her reasons?
What does her doctor think?
My MIL who NEVER leaves her home, refused it, and SIL told her if she wouldn't take it, then she, SIL was likely to bring it into MIL's home, and since only SIL is allowed to enter MIL's house, MIL would be out of luck for 2-3 weeks.
I don't know what the consensus was----Dh was upset with her for something else altogether and he said "You'd think with me being SO high risk, that she'd take the darn shot to protect ME on the off chance I HAVE to step back in!" She literally cares about no one but herself. DH said so much work was involved in getting a 90 yo woman to even GET the vaccine, she should be grateful for all the work SIL put in to getting it for her.
I know she's scheduled to have it on Wed., but the last I heard was that she was still refusing it. Probably due to the fact she actually has to leave the house for it.
I already know what your mom's dr would say: Get the vaccine.
I came up with two possibly vaccine related deaths in Norway, less than 10 in France, and no others.
No neonatal deaths, no permanent disabilities, no dead elders or fetuses.
The elderly have suffered the highest numbers of DEATHS per age group, but NOT deaths caused by the Covid vaccine.
The article about Israel was printed in Hebrew and I couldn’t find a translation.
I have the deepest respect for all of us who contribute here, but for each of us to make the best decisions for ourselves and our LOs, we must all rely on the best SCIENCE AT OUR DISPOSAL.
If ANYONE HAS SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT DEATHS
CAUSED BY COVID VACCINE, please post.
The odds are far greater against the person that doesn’t get the vaccine.
Science is absolutely amazing. I am so very grateful to the scientists who worked tirelessly on creating this vaccine.