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She insists that she takes her own baths and just took one, which of course she didn't. She cannot get out of the tub on her own. She will only bathe....has never taken a shower. I have tried everything. I have her tub set up with shower chair and removable shower head with hose.

First off, find out what she's afraid of or what's bothering her about the shower?
Is she cold? Get a space heater.
Is the stream of water too forceful? Get a hand held unit she can control.
Is the shower floor slippery? Get her water shoes from Amazon. This was my mother's problem and once the water shoes were put on, she was fine.
One woman was scared of the mirrors and being seen naked in them. Cover up the mirrors with towels.
If you can figure out what the issue is and fix it, then set 2 days a week for showers and don't ask.....just say Lets Go Mom, Time To Shower. No choices. Tell her the doctor ordered daily showers if she insists she took one yesterday. Tough love, be firm but insistent yourself.

If all else fails, hire a bath aide whos EXPERIENCED giving showers to elders with dementia.

Good luck to you.
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I don't know what your mother's personality and physical condition is like, so I can only give advice based on my own mother. It may or may not apply.

With my mother, I had to accept that with bathing, she had to call the shots. The more I nagged her, the more indignant and rebellious she became and the more she refused to wash or even change her diaper. When I backed down, she wouldn't bathe every day but every third or fourth day would ask me to help her into the shower. In between showers, every morning I would get her to wash her hands in the sink and while she was doing that, I'd clean her with hospital grade bathing wipes. This went well for awhile for a few years but as of last month, does not take baths anymore. I use hospital shower wipes, and she's fine.

I don't know how far along your mother is with her dementia or how bad her health is, but just know that there'll come a time when showers and baths are out of the question, and you'll have to use bathing wipes from that moment out, which is what hospitals use. With some people, it's like there's a switch marked bathing/no bathing that gets switched off permanently. A nurse who took care of my mother during one of her hospital visits confirmed it. She said she sees this all the time with dementia patients. She says that it doesn't make sense to them at their age and health to take baths and showers anymore and then ended with a cryptic, "They catch pneumonia fast."

I don't know if she was saying that maybe it's an instinctive thing to avoid showers because of potential pneumonia or they're just afraid of catching pneumonia but just know that it's not a simply a dementia issue, but something else. For instance, Christina Applegate admitted that since her MS progressed, she's become terrified of showers.

The terror is real. One of the biggest thing I ever regretted was making my father take a shower. He was in a shower chair and everything and in no danger of falling, wasn't in pain, water was perfect temperature, or but was so stressed out, he blacked out. I literally thought I had killed him, but no, he was fine but now knowing this "terror" angle, I feel in retrospect that I must have been like a torturer subjecting him to waterboarding. Showering is just this bizarre primal-like terror that some people with advanced age/dementia/illness have. If I had known then what I knew now, I would've never done that but I had no idea this was such a "thing". I thought the not taking a shower thing was just a head trip, a pride thing (older person not wanting to feel helpless, etc.) but it's not. It comes with the territory and you'll have to do with it the best you can. Not showering becomes a New Normal. I know it sucks, especially if your parents were the cleanest, most fastidious people you knew, but unfortunately yes, they may come to a point where they don't care about bathing, brushing, grooming, etc.
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I went through all this with my 93-year-old mother. About a month ago I purchased a product from QVC called Scrubbs. They are a Godsend. They’re actually individual wipes/pads that you get slightly wet and they create a lather like you wouldn’t believe. You can wash your entire body, privates included, with one as well as your hair! You don’t rinse off, you just remove what’s left with a towel. My Mom loves them and uses them every day. Scrubbs get rid of all odor, urine, anything a shower or bath does.
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MSalazar227 12 hours ago
Came to say this exact thing! These are the best things I’ve found for my mom regarding bathing.
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You may need to hire a bathe aide to come in a few times a week. Not only do the experienced ones know the tricks of the trade in getting an uncooperative person to do what’s needed without a fight, it’s also often true that people will cooperate better for an aide than a family member. A CNA experienced with dementia patients looking for side work could be a great help to you both
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They usually have to go to the bathroom at some point and end up sitting on the toilet, right? I'm a caregiver, A certified home health aid. In these instances, I keep a bunch of wash cloths on the batheoom sink. As soon as I can I get the water going in the sink to warm it up. And I also have some plastic glasses. When they sit down on the toilet I begin!!! I fill the cup with warm water and once they've finished toileting I pour the warm water down their front and down their backside. Do it slowly so they get used to it. They normally go to the bathroom several times a day. You get done what you can get done each time they are in the bathroom. Of course the genitals is most important, the armpits, under the breasts, under bellies..
wherever there is a crease, wherever skin meets skin. You can always wash their hands wherever they are just by bringing the wash cloth to them. Especially if they're going to go somewhere, you can tell them you have to wash up a little first. You can try that and it may or may not work. Another thing is this....
The stronger language you use with them the worse it's going to be. If you act like they are going to push back they probably will. Try to set routines. After eating wash face and hands. Washing hands and face does not have to always be done in the bathroom. Especially if they like to go out or have something special they love to do, Tell them you can do that but they need to wash up "a little" first. "This will take just a very short time and then we can be on our way". Or something like, "We can hurry up and get our hands washed and our faces washed and then we can go". DO NOT ask their permission because you can tell they're gonna say no!!
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I am a caregiver for my MIL, age 98, difficulty walking due to disintegrating lower spine and with dementia. I learned to just wait until she is on toilet, which requires my help, strip her down, stand her up, swivel to shower bench, lift feet into shower. I get in with her, put towels down on floor and pull curtain over. Then I get water warm with it shooting away from her and low. Then on her feet and ask her if it is too hot/cold. Then wash her down. I also have a heater in bathroom and keep it quite warm. I have a brush to rub her back and I massage her head and hair. She loves it. I only do this once a week. In between I wash all skin under diaper each morning with disposable wipes. She does her face in her chair with her small table in front of her each day while i make breakfast. She uses a disposable face wipe, face lotion and her lipstick.
Note- They will always think they had a shower yesterday because they don’t process time or language well so yesterday may mean “not so long ago.”
If you can ever get into shower, make sure it is a pleasant experience-slow, calm, let her help hold sprayer or wash cloth, give her towel to put over eyes when you do hair, massage her back, head, shoulders. Afterward, dry thoroughly, use lotion, file toenails and fingernails. We only do this once a week. I think she would like it more but I only have the energy for once a week - that is why I thoroughly clean bottom each morning and then apply salve/lotion to bottom to prevent sores. Keep bedding washed at minimum weekly, and air room when not in it.
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Agree with others, and I do get what you're struggling with.
My aunt would fib that she sponge bathed. I knew it wasn't true because you smelled her.
When her neighbor would visit, she would want to sit and be social, and smelly.
Afterwards, I couldn't take it, and told her, I was getting her bath ready. She went to her room, shut the door, jumped in the bed, and threw the covers over her head. I don't believe I saw her spring so fast. She just wouldn't listen to me andwouldn'tlet me bathe her. Probably about three times I had luck.
So now my cousin has help coming, and since the help isn't family, I think the caregiver is having better luck than I did. Sometimes it takes an outsider that they'll listen to.
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We used to tell my very elderly Aunt with advanced dementia that she was going to the doctor that afternoon, or that someone she remembered was coming to visit. Eventually, even that ruse stopped working and we hired a neighbor who was already a PT caregiver to come in 2x a week to bath her. Sometimes my Aunt was cooperative and sometimes is took some cajoling.

https://www.agingcare.com/articles/how-to-help-with-bathing-and-personal-hygiene-top-tips-from-caregivers-212010.htm

It may need to be sponge baths for your Mom. It may also be time for her PoA to read the document to see what activates the authority -- if she has a PoA and they are already active in taking over management of her affairs.
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Does she have Alzheimer’s or dementia? They will always refuse a bath or shower unfortunately. It’s always a struggle. It has to be a creative endeavor or just live through the squawking.
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cms4070 Dec 21, 2024
She has dementia. Yes I try to be creative....it is a constant endeavor.
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You say that you've "tried everything" but have you actually tried just taking her hand and leading her into the bathroom and helped her get into the prepared bath, and then of course just wash her up yourself?
That way she'll feel safe and you'll know that she's actually clean because you cleaned her yourself.
I would have to help my late husband into his walk in shower, sit him down and then wash him up real good, and then again help him out and dry him off.
And yes I always got a little wet in doing so, but at least my husband got his needed showers and he felt safe with me right there.
And of course if you're not comfortable bathing your mom, you can always hire an aide to come at least twice a week to do so, and then use the extra large body wipes and waterless shampoo caps for the in-between.
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cms4070 Dec 21, 2024
I am perfectly comfortable helping her bathe, which I have done many, many times, including lifting her out of the tub. She cannot get out by herself. She is not a big person so it manageable. Now she refuses every time. She says terrible things to me, and repeatedly insists that she takes baths on her own all the time. I have endured her wrath, foul language, orders for me to leave, pushing me and insulting me when I nicely talk with her about the importance of hygiene and explaining that she will feel much better when she is clean. She agrees and says that she took a bath yesterday or 2 days ago. I tried to convince her that a shower would be easier. I bought a shower chair, installed hand held shower, put my bathing suit on and got in and showed her. She told me to "take it away!" (the chair). I keep trying. Her daily caregivers offer to help her and she reluctantly let them help her with a bath a handful of times. But now she refuses. Because of her foul mouth and physical refusal, nobody pushes hard. The good news is she is still toileting herself and she takes sponge baths, just not thoroughly. She does not smell so I am thankful for that.
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