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I can't believe I'm back on this forum...although I missed the kindness. My dad finally passed away in March. A blessing. I've done a great job maintaining boundaries with my narcissistic mom, who is 85 and stubborn and refuses to leave an unsafe house or even get a cell phone. I'm at peace with that. But the other day, my aunt told me my mom called her because my mom had a doctor's appointment (ironically she told the doctor she doesn't have memory problems according to the notes from the visit). After the appointment she couldn't find her car in a small town. She ended up walking home (not sure why she didn't ask a stranger or go back in the doctor office) and calling my aunt. They found it in an alley (a legal spot) but still....not where my mom was convinced she'd left it. I am ok with her choice to die in her home but I'm not ok with her injuring someone else while driving. She'll never willingly give up her keys. Do I call the state (they haven't done much before)? Is forgetting where she parked enough to trigger action? She's not remotely reasonable. No point in talking to her

Doctors are mandated reporters. Not sure if you are your Mom's PoA but even if not, I would send a note to her primary care doctor with the date (especially since she allegedly was just at that office). Maybe the next appointment they will test her memory, but may not. They have to have proof before reporting her.

In FL you can go to the DMV website and there's a page where you can report an unsafe driver. I had to do this for my Aunt who had mild/moderate dementia but would not give up driving. I was able to give them her DL, recount multiple incidents and dates, tell them about her poor eyesight and make the case why she shouldn't be driving any more. In response they sent her a letter telling her she needed to come it to retake the eye exam (she had rheumatoid arthritis and had triple vision in one eye). I told everyone to not take her in for that appointment, but a dumb nephew took her. She failed the eye test and they asked her how she got there and said her nephew drove her. That was the end of her driving.

For my SFIL who had Parkinsons and Lewy Body dementia (and no PoA) we involved social services. They asked me to be in a meeting where they told him he shouldn't drive any more. I took possession of his car and he didn't fight it because I told him whenever he left his driveway I'd call the cops.

In your situation I'd report her to APS and tell them about the most recent incident (or better, send them an email so it is in writing). There is really not much you can do that she won't be able to work around at this point. She could report you for car theft, or vandelism if you disable her car. It's not a permanent enough solution. Try reporting her to APS or at least asking them how to stop her.
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FWIW, the state took my mom's license twice due to poor eyesight and she still drove. She is NPD and just turned 86. Two and 1/2 years ago we got her placed in a memory care facility because she was having violent tendencies and was unsafe. It took two IVCs to get someone to listen. Mom has come a long way since we started her on meds, but she still resents boundaries I set down. I think you have done all you can other than sending a mass email to all family members and mom's friends explaining that your mom is unsafe on the road, but will not stop driving and you are unable to reason with her. That puts the ball in their court. You may have gone grey rock, but you may choose to go no or low contact. The waves of crisis are probably only beginning. NPDs do not age well and they want to take everyone down with them.
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All you can do, I think, is disable her car yourself. Seems to me nobody in the DMV or the PD makes elders with "memory problems" stop driving these days, unfortunately. Which forces us "children" to take drastic measures sometimes.

But you may want to ignore all of this. Unless you know for a fact mom is driving erratically. If she wants independence and is totally unreasonable to deal with, then she gets to walk home from doctors appointments and maybe grocery stores next, who knows?

At some point, you have to look out for yourself. Mother has been nothing but a drain on you for a very long time now. This is just more of the same. Your hands are tied due to her foul personality, so what's the answer? Lie awake worrying all night every night, disable her car, or put earplugs in your ears and blinders on your eyes and live your life. I'm sorry you've been put in such a position, I truly am. One day something will happen that forces mother into managed care w/o her consent and maybe then you'll be released from all this. That's my hope.
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Fawnby 16 hours ago
Lea, losing her car seems like a serious safety issue for mom. Next time she could easily end up walking in the wrong direction and wander for a long time, perhaps meeting Foul Play along the way. I had a tenant who wasn't suspected of having dementia, but one day he bought a brand new car at the local big-city car dealer, stopped at a restaurant for lunch, came out and couldn't find the car. He managed to walk home, which was a few miles (and he had mobility issues as well). He couldn't get into his house so called upon the neighbor, fortunately a policeman, who found the car. It was in the restaurant parking lot where tenant parked it. He just didn't remember he had a new car! The streets where tenant was walking were busy 4+ lanes. With his cognitive impairment, he could have easily gotten into the traffic and been killed. After this, his sister from out of state came and got him; he went directly into memory care and died a couple of months later. Sister said she'd talked to him every week on the phone and had no idea he had any cognitive issues. WOW. Inside his house - which I owned and where he lived alone - it was clear he had had memory issues for some time. It was a total MESS and I was aghast.
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